<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have a small envelope, from my grandmother’s photos, with the following written in ink, on the outside:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“Lottie Palmer & Nellie Palmer Dunford<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Celia Richardson”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In pencil is added “Parks” between the Lottie and Palmer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The envelope is empty.  I knew who Lottie and Nellie were (my grandmother and great-grandmother), but who was Celia? Lottie’s mother was Cynthia, Cynthia’s mother was Celia (b 1802). I had presumed an error on my grandmother’s part, labeling the photo with the “wrong” generation grandmother, and that the missing photo was Cynthia, not Celia..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Some time back I came across a published family history with a picture captioned: Celia Humphries Richardson.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I realized that one of the orphan photos in my box of old photos was the same woman. Celia had gotten separated from her envelope.  Apparently my cousin was better at keeping photos than I was.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t know about the rest of you, but I have been taught to always identify ANY source material on the material itself, if at all possible.  <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So, while I support the scanning – and the metadata (subject to the usual concerns about upgrading the media every so often, so as not to get in the “we don’t have the ability to read that file anymore”), I do think that identifying the photo on the photo is pretty important. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In Tucson <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> apgpubliclist-bounces+pldunford=cox.net@apgen.org [mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+pldunford=cox.net@apgen.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Baker<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 27, 2011 1:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jacqueline Wilson<br><b>Cc:</b> APG Posting<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [APG Public List] Labelling photos<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a simpler solution. These days I scan everything and put the information required in the metadata. And no harm is done to the photo. If you are using archival paper sleeves to store the photos in, put that same information on the outside of the sleeve.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jon Bajer<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jacqueline Wilson <<a href="mailto:wilssearch@gmail.com">wilssearch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Steve, these are what I was referring to, I just could not think of the name.  But having said that - I just read on one of the archival supply sites that these are not to be used on photos.  However, the scrapbooking store <a href="http://archiversonline.com/" target="_blank">http://archiversonline.com</a> sold them to me for just that purpose.   <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Are you using them on the back of your photos? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>~J</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Stephen J Danko wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have used Pigma Micron Pens for many years:  <a href="http://www.sakuraofamerica.com/Pen-Archival" target="_blank">http://www.sakuraofamerica.com/Pen-Archival</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The manufacturer states that the ink in these pens is archival quality ink for use in acid-free environments; chemically stable, waterproof, and fade resistant; no smears, feathers, or bleed-through on most papers.  The pens are available in a wide range of ink colors and nib sizes.  The ink is not dye-based ink and is described in great detail at:  <a href="http://www.sakuraofamerica.com/pdf/PigmaInkStory.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.sakuraofamerica.com/pdf/PigmaInkStory.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stephen J. Danko</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.stephendanko.com/" target="_blank">http://www.stephendanko.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>