<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><DIV>Joan and all,</DIV> <DIV>I just ran this by a good friend who is retired from Social Security and her function was taking initial applications and making sure all the necessary data was there before processing them.  She says that the marriage record would not necessarily be there in the initial application, but would likely be a part of subsequent supporting documentation.  She also said exactly what you said: if the children were born during a marriage, it is presumed that they were the children of the husband unless proven otherwise.  At any rate,  it sure wouldn't ever hurt to look at the entire application, because the one paper that's not check out is the very one that the information sought will be on!  </DIV> <DIV>Dee</DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR> <DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma> <HR SIZE=1> <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "JYoung6180@aol.com" <JYoung6180@aol.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> wncgen@yahoo.com; donna316@tx.rr.com; apgpubliclist@apgen.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sun, January 9, 2011 8:12:05 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [APG Public List] Questions on Social Security Benefits Application<BR></FONT><BR><FONT id=role_document color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial> <DIV>Dee-</DIV> <DIV><BR>Your situation is different in that there was no marriage. Where a marriage exists there is a legal presumption that the husband fathered the children born during the marriage--unless someone could prove otherwise. Where there is NO marriage then parentage would have to be established through other means--in your case the birth records of the children.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Joan</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 1/9/2011 7:23:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wncgen@yahoo.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial> <DIV>I have two grandchildren who are drawing Social Security.  Their father is deceased.  He and their mother (my duaghter) were never married (they were under 18 when the kids were born and I refused to sign for her to marry him because I knew he was a drug addict.  We think an overdose killed him at age 33.)  When my daughter applied for SS for them after his death, she was not asked about a marriage - just their birth certificates as marriage doesn't prove fatherhood.  Hope this helps.</DIV> <DIV>Dee<BR></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></div><br> </body></html>