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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Many thanks for all the input about IL marriages in the mid-nineteenth century. I was not aware there was a license application but will search for that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alvie L. Davidson CG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lakeland, FL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>http://www.floridadetective.net<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rosalie Schack [mailto:historyhunter@q.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> floridasearch@verizon.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [APG Public List] IL Marriage Question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Alvie,<br>Here is the copy of page 78 from Edgar County marriages that lists my husband's 4th great grandparents. <br> <br>There was a little more to the story than what I put on the list. The clerk was very friendly and helpful and agreed to make a copy of the page in the book, as well as the book cover. I was appalled at how she handled the book that I was not allowed to touch. I would have much more careful than she was. After she copied that record I asked for the book of marriage returns and she said there was no such book. I showed her the index listing both the marriage records and the marriage license returns. She said that the Historical Society sometimes didn't know what they were doing. I persisted in saying there must be a book. She was not as nice now, and told me that the book was in the basement and not accessible. It was stored with other records they didn't have room for upstairs. I asked if I could go look for it, but she said no. I asked if someone could do that for me and she said no, they didn't have the time, although one person might do it later if time allowed. She got less and less friendly as our conversation progressed, even though I tried to be friendly and polite.<br> <br>So if you are told that no marriage license return book exists, you may want to be persistant. If they use the same index they did 10 years ago, it lists both the marriage register and the returns. As I mentioned in the other email, the index listed the officiant, but the marriage record didn't.<br> <br>On my way out I went to the basement of the courthouse. No one seemed to be around, so I opened a few doors and found a room with books stacked all over, on cupboards, tables, chairs, and the floor. I looked around for several minutes, and didn't find marriage returns, but there were big stacks of books in front of cupboards of books, so I would have had to move them all to open the cupboard, and time didn't allow me to do that. Not to mention that I would have been in trouble if someone found me doing that! And I don't want to give researchers a bad name so that we get more restricted. So I left wondering if the record I was searching for was there. Perhaps some day I will try again.<br> <br>It was good to put a face to your emails at IGHR this summer!<br> <br>Rosalie<br> <br><br><br> <br>-----------------------<br>Rosalie Eben Schack, CG<br>Owatonna, Minnesota<br><br><br><br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: floridasearch@verizon.net<br>To: apgmembersonlylist@apgen.org<br>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:38:11 -0400<br>CC: apgpubliclist@apgen.org<br>Subject: [APG Public List] IL Marriage Question<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Dear friends<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I am about to request a copy of a marriage from Edgar County, IL for the year 1850. Does anyone know if I will get more information on this document other than the names of the groom, bride, and the officiating party, i.e. minister, justice of the peace, etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I will hold off expending these funds if that is all I might get on this document. If anyone has ordered a mid-nineteenth century marriage license of IL and can scan me a copy I would love to see the information received.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Alvie L. Davidson CG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Lakeland, FL <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.floridadetective.net">http://www.floridadetective.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>