<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:18pt"><div>I meant to send this to the apg public list as well.<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 18pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">----- Forwarded Message ----<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jeanette Daniels <jeanettedaniels8667@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> LBoswell <laboswell@rogers.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, July 22, 2010 7:37:48 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [APG Public List] Repeating client's work<br></font><br> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 18pt;"><div>Israel and Mag,<br><br>Larry and the others have given good advice.  I was reacting more to when I've had clients respond to almost everything I've found as though they already have it and want more research without paying.  Their initial letter request and phone calls didn't indicate that and I have concluded that this is their way of trying to get more research for free.  <br><br>I've been burned myself but this has usually been with foreign research and dealing with genealogists in Ireland and Germany.  I've actually had to hire someone from the US to go over to Austria and straighten out what was correct and what wasn't when I discovered that the records I told were only in Germany were available at the FHL and I was able trace and correct that portion of the research.  The records for Austria are not available here so I did pay for a genealogist friend to go to Austria and get the correct information.<br><br>The Irish research was unbelievable.  The genealogist instead of going to individual churches to search records like I thought, went to the church graveyards and apparently had his children writing down the names of anyone of the surname I needed.  I was looking for people in the 1600s.  The earliest tombstone date was 1952.  <br><br>When I didn't respond with asking for more research, this genealogist had the nerve to send me another letter wanting to continue the tombstone searches.  I am well aware that the graves are turned over in Ireland and that there would be no older tombstones.  So, I know how disappointed Mag is and I know how Israel feels because I've been in both situations as well.<br><br>Jeanette Daniels<br>Heritage Genealogical College<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 18pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> LBoswell <laboswell@rogers.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> IsraelP@pikholz.org; apgpubliclist@apgen.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, July 22, 2010 7:21:22 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [APG Public List] Repeating client's work<br></font><br> <style></style> <div>My answer would be simple.  I need to see where you may have gone wrong (since you've hit a point where you need to hire me) in your previous research.  To get from A to B I have to take a fresh look at a range of records that you may or may not have looked at.  I'm the professional, you hired me because your  research attempts failed in some way.  Part of what I have to do to get past that 'failure' is to look at what you did, and make sure you didn't misinterpret or overlook some key piece of information.  To accept everything as given would make me your partner in your failed attempt, and since I have the experience and training to bring to bear on the problem, I prefer to evaluate things for myself rather than accept your take on things.</div> <div> </div> <div>I wouldn't actually use the word 'failure', I'd dress the explanation up in pleasant, amiable terms, but the above would be what I meant.</div> <div> </div> <div>Larry</div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="IsraelP@pikholz.org" ymailto="mailto:IsraelP@pikholz.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:IsraelP@pikholz.org">Israel P</a> </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="apgpubliclist@apgen.org" ymailto="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</a> </div> <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:14 AM</div> <div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> [APG Public List] Repeating client's work</div> <div><br></div>What do you folks do when - after asking client the three basic questions <br>what do you know, what do you want to learn and what resources have you <br>already checked - client then says "Why did you spend two hours on such <br>and such?  I already looked at that."<br><br>She didn't include that resource in answering the third basic question, <br>so as far as I knew, this was a new investigation.  (Let's ignore that I <br>might have found something that client herself missed.)<br><br>Do you have to tell client in advance exactly what resources you are <br>planning to investigate?  That can get awfully cumbersome - next thing <br>she'll want to know exactly how many units of fifteen minutes will be <br>spent on each resource!<br><br>I mean you can hardly just say "Tough luck.  I asked what you had done <br>yourself and you didn;'t mention this resource."<br><br>Israel Pickholtz<br>Jerusalem<br><br></blockquote></div></div> </div><br> </div></div> </div><br> </body></html>