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mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-text-animation: none; text-line-through: none } .MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-style-type: export-only; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-default-props: yes } DIV.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="tab-interval: .5in" lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=white vLink=purple> <DIV>Permission to also quote this definition so it can be discussed as part of a topic concerning the nature of genealogy that will take place on a public list  next week (with attribution, definitely)?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Larry</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=eshown@comcast.net href="mailto:eshown@comcast.net">eshown@comcast.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 25, 2010 3:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APG Public List] celebrity connections to royalty orfamous historical people</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=WordSection1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Joan wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">>I have been asked to speak briefly with a radio host on Monday morning and would like to provide a broader opinion than my own on the following topic specifically at what point in going back do these connections lose any real meaning for us or our clients:</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">>>"we want to know how anyone finds connections that old [e.g. to nobility or to royalty -their example is Count Vlad]� we�re so often hearing that some celebrity is related to another or something like that. We�d want to talk about the field of genealogy and how these connections are found. When does family connection lose meaning in your opinion? Just because they shared a relative 400 years ago, does that matter to people you�ve worked with? In your experience can we all find someone famous in our family tree if we look far enough back/ are we all related in some way if you go far enough back?"</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> ><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Any brief thoughts on this topic?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Joan, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The success of <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">US</I> and <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">People</I> magazines attest that the <B>public</B> is enamored with celebrities. No radio host should be surprised, then, that the <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">public</B> thinks it�s cool to be told they are related to nobility, royalty, or people of infamy. But, as <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">we</I> know, there is a vast difference between the public stereotype and the actual practice of genealogy.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What the media does not �get� is that genealogy is <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">not</B> about finding celebrities. It is history in microcosm. Each of us has our own way of describing what genealogy means to us. Mine would be this:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Genealogy is about understanding ourselves and the influences that have made us who we are. It�s about understanding the men and women whose genes we carry and whose customs we cherish or purposefully reject. It�s about understanding the world we live in, and how the actions of past men and women shaped the issues we deal with today. It�s about understanding how the problems of those past societies shaped our forebears and how the individual choices they made affected their families and ultimately us. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Board for Certification of Genealogists� website also has an �explanation� of genealogy to which you might refer the radio host. It�s at the home page: www.bcgcertification.org.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Elizabeth<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; mso-element: para-border-div; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt"> <P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 1.0pt 0in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG<BR>Tennessee<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <DIV> <P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>