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<DIV>Then my description is poorly worded because I don't intend to be a leader
in the sense you suggest. Understand that there's a lot involved in
quickly setting up a Yahoo group, so my first description is written very
quickly. I'll review it based on your criticism of it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> But I guess the proof will be in the pudding. Your first email came
only to me, and I responded more fully there. My role will be to try to give the
discussions structure and make sure that everyone is getting something from
them. Move things along at some points, slow it down at other points to
give everyone time to absorb and progress. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think saying I'm setting myself as a leader isn't at all the way I
see it, in fact I don't understand what you mean by that, but don't
underestimate my knowledge and experience with this subject. I feel
confident that I can help create a good study environment in this group.
Once the discussions start, I'm going to participate like any other member. Call
it a structured peer group. But I'm open to ideas, just give me time to
get things going here! The group is only a couple of hours old, to be
fair! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And the emphasis is on writing citations, but to write them well you have
to understand the why and not just the how. And that means really looking
at related subjects too. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Those well versed in the subject have expressed an interest, and will be
important resources as the discussion sessions proceed. But people learn by
doing, by making mistakes, by questioning and figuring out the answers, by group
feedback, as well as from those who have expert standing</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Larry</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Larry Boswell BA, PLCGS<BR><A
href="http://www.TheBackstairs.com">www.TheBackstairs.com</A><BR><A
href="http://thebackstairs.com/blog/">http://thebackstairs.com/blog/</A><BR>"Experts
in Historical & Genealogical Research"<BR>Listowner, TheoryGen (a
non-archived list)<BR><A
href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/">http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/</A><BR>Ottawa,
Ontario, Canada<BR><A
href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=linda@fpr.com href="mailto:linda@fpr.com">linda@fpr.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org
href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:31
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APG Public List] citation
Think Tank</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Larry,<BR><BR>From your invitation email and from the group
description page, you've<BR>described a restricted moderated group with you as
the leader,<BR>conducting study sessions. The emphasis is on writing
citations.<BR><BR>My interest is in exploring sources and the accompanying
need to<BR>record/describe/cite them. I enjoy systematically approaching
topics,<BR>but I would be quite happy with, and generally prefer, a group
where the<BR>participants function as peers. I also would like the group
to include<BR>those interested who bring a broad range of background and
experience. <BR>You've wrote on the group page "Any genealogist who is well
versed in<BR>the preparation of source citations should not apply to
join." Frankly,<BR>I would like a group where well-versed members would
be welcome, and not<BR>one where one person has set themselves up as the
experienced leader.<BR><BR>I do not see the group described in the information
you've provided as<BR>meeting my purposes.<BR><BR>In addition, some have
mentioned that they'd like to be able to use<BR>document images in
discussions, so I shared my willingness to create a<BR>discussion environment
supporting that desire.<BR><BR>Linda<BR>____________<BR>Linda
Gardner<BR>Massachusetts<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> -------- Original Message
--------<BR>> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] citation Think Tank<BR>>
From: "LBoswell" <<A
href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A>><BR>> Date:
Thu, June 10, 2010 11:55 am<BR>> To: <<A
href="mailto:linda@fpr.com">linda@fpr.com</A>>, "Jacqueline Wilson" <<A
href="mailto:wilssearch@me.com">wilssearch@me.com</A>><BR>> Cc:
"apgpubliclist Posting" <<A
href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A>><BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> just to clarify that I'm not setting up a "class". The
moderated aspect is <BR>> only to keep discussions within a 'study' or
learning approach, rather than <BR>> drifting off into wider
discussions. It's going to be a cooperative study <BR>> discussion
area, a round table set up. My role will be to keep things moving <BR>>
along by providing some direction, or hold things up when more time is
<BR>> needed on a particular area. More to make sure that the
discussion move <BR>> along in a linear fashion. I intend to be a
participant, learning along <BR>> with the rest, and offering any insights
that I can to meet the goal of <BR>> helping people reach a higher level of
understanding and confidence in the <BR>> writing of source
citations.<BR>> <BR>> A lot of concentration on the basics.
Understanding the nature and purposes <BR>> of source citations in
genealogy.<BR>> <BR>> On joining the group, there's a problem at the
moment. The links appear to <BR>> function sporadically, some people are
able to get through and others are <BR>> having problems. I think the
problem is that I set it up as an "unlsted <BR>> group". I'm
attempting to have it show as a listed group (which will solve <BR>> the
problem)<BR>> <BR>> In the meantime if anyone has problems joining
please let me know off list. <BR>> I should have things fixed
shortly<BR>> <BR>> Larry Boswell BA, PLCGS<BR>> <A
href="http://www.TheBackstairs.com">www.TheBackstairs.com</A><BR>> <A
href="http://thebackstairs.com/blog/">http://thebackstairs.com/blog/</A><BR>>
"Experts in Historical & Genealogical Research"<BR>> Listowner,
TheoryGen (a non-archived list)<BR>> <A
href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/">http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/</A><BR>>
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada<BR>> <A
href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A><BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:linda@fpr.com">linda@fpr.com</A><BR>> To:
Jacqueline Wilson<BR>> Cc: apgpubliclist
Posting<BR>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:44
AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] citation Think
Tank<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jackie,<BR>>
<BR>> I've been thinking about your question and the desire to
be able to<BR>> include document images in discussions.<BR>>
<BR>> I wonder if Google Wave might not be a useful setting for
this type of<BR>> group.<BR>> <BR>> I would
be willing to set up one for those interested.
Technically,<BR>> participants need a gmail account. A
wave can be public or private to a<BR>> group. Whatever
we decide. I am willing to handle the technical and<BR>>
organizational end, but could not be 'leader' with respect to content.<BR>>
<BR>> I am not interested in a class or moderated group of the
type Larry<BR>> describes for his yahoo group.<BR>>
<BR>> i'd like a place where individuals seriously interested
in learning<BR>> about sources and how to cite them for
different purposes can get<BR>> together and pursue their
common interest. I'd like for the group to<BR>> reflect a
range of expertise, because I enjoy learning from others,
but<BR>> most important to me is that participants share a
common goal regarding<BR>> extending their understanding of
genealogical sources in today's world<BR>> and the
corresponding implications for citations. So, I'd be happy
to<BR>> start with whomever is interested and go from
there.<BR>> <BR>> I'm not committed to Google Wave at
all. If there's interest in another<BR>> platform, like a
Google or Yahoo group, or a blog, I'd be happy to set<BR>> it
up and do organizational chores, if that's of any help. Just
thought<BR>> of Wave, because one can pull an image directly
into a conversation.<BR>> <BR>> Linda<BR>>
____________<BR>> Linda Gardner<BR>>
Massachusetts<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > -------- Original
Message --------<BR>> > Subject: Re: [APG Public List]
citation Think Tank<BR>> > From: Jacqueline Wilson <<A
href="mailto:wilssearch@me.com">wilssearch@me.com</A>><BR>>
> Date: Wed, June 09, 2010 7:36 pm<BR>> > To:
apgpubliclist Posting <<A
href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A>><BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > What about a
Google or Yahoo group? That might be even easier
to<BR>> > keep up with. Right now I do not know enough
to ask the right<BR>> > questions, so someone would need to
lead at least until I get my head<BR>> > above water - at
the rate I am going that might take a year. I have<BR>>
> no idea what my schedule will be like until after July
5th.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>
> Would anyone be interested in a group like this. Maybe the first
set<BR>> > of discussions could cover the first 90+ pages of
EE and then go<BR>> > section by section. We could post
examples of the documents listed<BR>> > that section
and discuss both the analysis and the citation.<BR>>
><BR>> > Comments, criticisms, ideas?<BR>>
><BR>> > Jacqueline Wilson<BR>> >
Evanston, IL<BR>> ><BR>> > <A
href="mailto:wilssearch@me.com">wilssearch@me.com</A><BR>> >
Professional Indexer, Historian, and Genealogist<BR>> >
Deputy Sheriff for Publications of the Chicago Corral of the
Westerners<BR>> > IASPR Newsletter
Editor<BR>> ><BR>> > "Wilssearch - your
service of choice for the indexing challenged<BR>> >
genealogist."<BR>> > ***************<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > On Jun 9, 2010, at 5:34
PM, Chris Staats wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >
Jackie -<BR>> ><BR>> > It sounds like a
Wordpress or Blogger site might be the free medium<BR>> >
you are envisioning. It's really easy to set up and configure.
You<BR>> > could post the document and question in a post,
and let people respond<BR>> > in the comments section. If
you needed, it would be easy to also post<BR>> > a
powerpoint presentation or other media to the blog using
Slideshare<BR>> > or other free hosting services. You
certainly could use a wiki or<BR>> > content management
system, but a blog is simpler to set up and manage<BR>> > -
especially without paying for hosting.<BR>>
><BR>> > Just a thought.<BR>>
><BR>> > Chris<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>