<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: [APG Members] [APG Public List] Source Citation study groupcommencinc soon</TITLE> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18904"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>I noticed your later message and skipped to it.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think this one is going to be a mix of  'forum' and 'directed study'  (directed in that it probably is useful to have a moderator adjust the pace of the flow of topics to reflect what's going on within in the list itself).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But the premise and the group are only half a day old, so let's give it a little more time before judgements are pronounced.  The people signing up are expressing enthusiasm for the idea of intensely studying this whole subject in a group forum</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but there is an important role for Elizabeth or anyone else with specific expertise if they wish to accept it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Larry</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Larry Boswell BA, PLCGS<BR><A href="http://www.TheBackstairs.com">www.TheBackstairs.com</A><BR><A href="http://thebackstairs.com/blog/">http://thebackstairs.com/blog/</A><BR>"Experts in Historical & Genealogical Research"<BR>Listowner, TheoryGen (a non-archived list)<BR><A href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/">http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/</A><BR>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=janis.gilmore@gmail.com href="mailto:janis.gilmore@gmail.com">Janis Walker Gilmore</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=laboswell@rogers.com href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">LBoswell</A> ; <A title=clsheets1@yahoo.com href="mailto:clsheets1@yahoo.com">Connie Sheets</A> ; <A title=APGMembersOnlyList@apgen.org href="mailto:APGMembersOnlyList@apgen.org">APGMembersOnlyList@apgen.org</A> ; <A title=eshown@comcast.net href="mailto:eshown@comcast.net">eshown@comcast.net</A> ; <A title=transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com href="mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com">transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com</A> ; <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:10 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APG Members] [APG Public List] Source Citation study groupcommencinc soon</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Whoops. Quick reading, and I misunderstood your first sentence. Sorry about that.<BR><BR>I still question the premise upon which you are proceeding, but it’s not my study group and I’m not a participant.<BR><BR>Good luck with it.<BR><BR>Janis Walker Gilmore<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On 6/10/10 2:47 PM, "LBoswell" <<A href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Connie, <BR> <BR>I have responded to Elizabeth privately.  <BR> <BR>Essentially I think having someone of Elizabeth's calibre on the list (in the beginning at least) would alter the dynamics for the list.  I think the temptation would be for all of us to simply engage in chaotic question and answer sessions, which is why I suggest periodic visits are welcome (and I think necessary) at least in the intial period.  In between visits I'd rather we worked at it quietly in this group environment, step by step.  I think I see the concept really  exploring the ideas and concepts that lie behind source citations as well as the actual application of those concepts, something I think you accomplish by working with the subject itself.  Not by being given the answers easily.<BR> <BR>The cut off I guess is based on an honest answer to this question: "do you need to strengthen or refresh existing skills or develop greater understanding of source citations."  If you say that's the case, welcome to the group.   If you don't then why would you want to join. So I'm setting the bar at that point, at least in the very beginning while the list establishes its own dynamics. I suspect those with established expertise would really help the group if they'd periodically  volunteer to come answe questions at strategic points as we all move forward in this project.  <BR> <BR>The range of people in the group now covers the span from newbie to experienced researcher, but each one individually states they want to work to improve their source citation skills and understanding, in a group setting.   <BR> <BR>Larry<BR> <BR> <BR>Larry Boswell BA, PLCGS<BR>www.TheBackstairs.com <<A href="http://www.TheBackstairs.com">http://www.TheBackstairs.com</A>> <BR><A href="http://thebackstairs.com/blog/">http://thebackstairs.com/blog/</A><BR>"Experts in Historical & Genealogical Research"<BR>Listowner, TheoryGen (a non-archived list)<BR><A href="http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/">http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/theorygen/</A><BR>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada<BR><A href="laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A><BR></SPAN></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <BR><B>From:</B>  Connie  Sheets <<A href="mailto:clsheets1@yahoo.com">mailto:clsheets1@yahoo.com</A>>  <BR> <BR><B>To:</B> <A href="APGMembersOnlyList@apgen.org">APGMembersOnlyList@apgen.org</A> ;  <A href="LABoswell@rogers.com">LABoswell@rogers.com</A> ; <A href="eshown@comcast.net">eshown@comcast.net</A> ; <A href="transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com">transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com</A>  ; <A href="apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> <BR> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:11  PM<BR> <BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APG Public List] [APG  Members] Source Citation study groupcommencinc soon<BR> <BR><BR>[I apologize in advance if I'm cross posting to the wrong  lists; I've lost track of what was posted where].<BR><BR>Larry,<BR><BR>Could  you please respond to Elizabeth's question publicly? In addition, could you  let us know how you plan to distinguish those who are allowed to join your  list vs. those who are not? <BR><BR>Although I have little time to participate  in another group, I might be interested if I could be assured that authors of  relevant books or articles, and anyone else who is willing to serve in a  mentor role, are available to answer questions or offer relevant comments at  all times.<BR><BR>I have little interest in a group that would restrict  membership, particularly when I've not seen a description of how you plan to  decide who is able to join and who is not.  If your intent is to allow  individuals like Elizabeth to participate only on certain occasions, I'm not  comfortable with that, as it could easily lead to loss of context for all  involved.<BR><BR>I do like Linda's idea of a Google Wave  experiment.<BR><BR>Connie Sheets<BR>Arizona<BR><BR><BR>--- On Thu, 6/10/10, <A href="eshown@comcast.net">eshown@comcast.net</A> <<A href="eshown@comcast.net">eshown@comcast.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>>  Larry, <BR>> <BR>> You are generous indeed to launch this study group. I  note<BR>> you state that it<BR>> will be a "restricted group" and "not a  place for those who<BR>> already have a<BR>> high degree of confidence  in writing source<BR>> citations." You also state that<BR>> you will be  using EE and "going step by step through that<BR>> text, from front<BR>>  to back." <BR>> <BR>> While I really do not have time to participate  actively on<BR>> another list, I<BR>> would like to at least 'be  available' for times when EE is<BR>> misunderstood or<BR>> for the  inevitable occasions when no one on the group has<BR>> experience with  a<BR>> particular type of source that EE covers. May I subscribe<BR>>  also?<BR>> <BR>> Elizabeth<BR>> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>