<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt = "uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s = "uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z = "#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html = "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q = "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc = "http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" XMLNS:D = "DAV:" XMLNS:Repl = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2 = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda = "http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds = "http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd = "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec = "http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi = "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" xmlns:udcxf = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udcp2p = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi = "http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver = "http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels = "http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp = "http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" xmlns:ex12t = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:pptsl = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/SlideLibrary/" xmlns:spsl = "http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortalServer/PublishedLinksService" XMLNS:Z = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st = ""><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18882"> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Cambria Math; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 11pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 11pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 11pt } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: windowtext; mso-style-type: personal-compose } .MsoChpDefault { mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=#ffffff vLink=purple> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">It sounds like what I call the suspicion reaction. What seemed to be a good idea to them originally has become, for some reason, something that they aren't interested in sharing. Are they afraid that the results will somehow be used in ways that could cause them problems?  I know one client wanted to go the DNA route until someone told him that the results could be used to identify medical conditions (or potential conditions), that would cause problems if the information became available to the wrong people or organizations. It was a groundless fear, but it took a while before his fears were calmed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Worth sending them an explanation of how the information is protected and exactly how it will be used, who will have access to it, and that there are no problems that could come back to haunt them.  Is it clear to them that their identities will be protected?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Larry</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV>Larry Boswell BA, PLCGS<BR><A href="http://www.TheBackstairs.com">www.TheBackstairs.com</A><BR><A href="http://thebackstairs.com/blog/">http://thebackstairs.com/blog/</A><BR>"Historical & Genealogical Research Services"<BR>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:laboswell@rogers.com">laboswell@rogers.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=victor.dunn@virginiaancestry.com href="mailto:victor.dunn@virginiaancestry.com">Victor S. Dunn, CG</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apgmembersonlylist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgmembersonlylist@apgen.org">apgmembersonlylist@apgen.org</A> ; <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:35 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [APG Members] Soliciting Y DNA Samples from Strangers</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal>I need some suggestions on how to get strangers to participate in a Y DNA study.  I am currently working with a client who appears to have a surname anomaly.  I have researched for a former client the same family that the current client is supposed to be related to, and Y DNA of relatives of the former client match a number of individuals with that surname. However, when the current client received his results, there were no matches to that surname and nothing definite on other surname matches.<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>At this point, we have no reason to believe there was an adoption or illegitimacy in the last two generations.  Therefore, I have identified several 2<SUP>nd</SUP> and 3<SUP>rd</SUP> cousins in hope of getting them to agree to a test so that we can determine when the “non-paternal” event occurred. The client has personally contacted three of these cousins and each agreed to take the Y DNA test which the client funded.  Several months have gone by and all three have refused to return their samples to Family Tree DNA.<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>I initially recommended that the client contact these cousins directly since I thought they would be more open to the tests if they were talking to a relative rather than a hired researcher.  I have talked to the client several times on the phone and find him to be very personable so I cannot imagine anything in his demeanor that might have turned them off.  However, despite a number of emails and phone calls from the client, no one is responding.  One of the candidates who received the test kit was very interested in his family history and asked a number of questions, so his non-participation is perplexing. The client is willing to keep trying with other cousins (fortunately there are a number of candidates), but we obviously need to be able to close the deal and get the tests returned. Any ideas are appreciated?<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal>Vic<o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Victor S. Dunn, CG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A title=http://www.virginiaancestry.com/ href="http://www.virginiaancestry.com"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">www.virginiaancestry.com</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A title=mailto:victor.dunn@virginiaancestry.com href="BLOCKED::mailto:victor.dunn@virginiaancestry.com"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">victor.dunn@virginiaancestry.com</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>