<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18882"> <META name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 12"><LINK rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01CAAF4F.8FBB89B0"> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Cambria Math; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-style-unhide: no; mso-style-qformat: yes; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-style-unhide: no; mso-style-qformat: yes; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-style-unhide: no; mso-style-qformat: yes; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; text-underline: single } P.MsoAcetate { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char" } LI.MsoAcetate { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char" } DIV.MsoAcetate { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char" } SPAN.BalloonTextChar { FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; mso-style-unhide: no; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text"; mso-style-name: "Balloon Text Char"; mso-style-locked: yes; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-style-unhide: no; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-style-type: personal } SPAN.EmailStyle20 { FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: blue; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-style-unhide: no; mso-style-noshow: yes; text-underline: none; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; text-line-through: none } .MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-style-type: export-only; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-default-props: yes } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="tab-interval: .5in" lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=white vLink=purple> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=296482918-17022010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=296482918-17022010><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>It should also tell the date you found it online on the Internet. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296482918-17022010>Found 17/2-2010 at <FONT color=#1f497d size=3 face=Calibri><A href="http://www.bestnewspaperarchive.com">www.bestnewspaperarchive.com</A><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>. or something like that.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296482918-17022010></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296482918-17022010>I wrote a book about the emigration from Norway and how to do genealogy research. Some of the stuff was based on the Ellis Island website. They changed it all, and took away a lot of the information. But I am happy I had the print of these sites and the date on the printouts.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT color=#1f497d size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN class=296482918-17022010></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hilsen</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Liv Marit Haakenstad</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780500414-30062008><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296482918-17022010><A href="http://www.genfind.org">www.genfind.org</A> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <DIV dir=ltr lang=no class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>Fra:</B> eshown@comcast.net [mailto:eshown@comcast.net] <BR><B>Sendt:</B> 17. februar 2010 04:56<BR><B>Til:</B> 'APG Public'<BR><B>Emne:</B> RE: [APG Public List] how to cite a transcription ofa birth announcement from a newspaper<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Stewart wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>Any source citation should state clearly and certainly intelligibly, what you have found and where you found it. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>>Remember, the world will not fall apart if you have to invent the structure to a source citation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>Stewart, I totally agree with both your statements. However, in the interest of adhering to as many basic principles as possible, as opposed to reinventing a wheel that might be wobbly, I would suggest a different emphasis from the one you present below:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>In this case:</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB>“Transcription of birth announcement, Coyote Daily News (Coyote, Ford County, Texas), 12 March 1879, www.bestnewspaperarchive.com”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><BR>The structure of the above citation implies that the transcription itself is in the _Coyote Daily News_. Given that Jo has not used the _<SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-style: italic">Coyote Daily News_ and has not verified that the birth announcement does appear in that paper on that date, EE recommends that she cite what she actually used. That is, the transcript by So-and-So, at the Website entitled _Thus and Such_ , together with the URL to relocate the transcript. Then, after her citation to the website is complete, she would add the “source of her source” notation, saying that the Website cites <I>Coyote Daily News, </I>Coyote Texas, 12 March 1879, p. __, col. ___.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB>Elizabeth<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; mso-element: para-border-div; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt"> <P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 1.0pt 0in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB>Elizabeth Shown Mills, </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB>CG, CGL, FASG</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang=EN-GB>The Evidence Series</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB" lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>