<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.5921" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Kathy is correct.  My old eyes were missing the obvious in the 1820 census.  But, like Kathy, I don't see it in 1830 (the first year with printed forms).  Thank you, Kathy.</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 2/9/2010 2:22:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, sully1@carolina.rr.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Jay,<BR><BR>Follow the particular household across all the columns.<BR>For example, in 1820 after the male/female age columns, there are the following columns for each household:<BR>Foreigners not naturalized<BR>Number of persons engaged in Agriculture<BR>Number of persons engaged in Commerce<BR>Number of persons engaged in Manufactures<BR><BR>Then come the columns for male and female slaves and their age range<BR>Then the columns for Free Colored Persons males and females and their age ranges<BR>And finally the column "All other persons except Indians not taxed<BR><BR>Kathy<BR><BR><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated title=mailto:JFonkert@aol.com href="mailto:JFonkert@aol.com">JFonkert@aol.com</A> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:12074.415f6dfd.38a31aae@aol.com type="cite"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.5921" name=GENERATOR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV>I'm confused, and hoping someone can help.  Hinckley and others say that the 1820 and 1830 censuses collected information on the number of people within each household engaged in agriculture, commerce or manufacturing.  I know that the 1820 and 1830 censuses gathered aggregate statistics (of not particularly good quality), and the 1840 census expanded the count to other industries, but I have never seen counts within families.  Am I missing something?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=2 face=Arial size=2 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="10">Jay Fonkert, CG<BR><A title=http://fourgenerationsgenealogy.blogspot.com/ href="http://fourgenerationsgenealogy.blogspot.com/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://fourgenerationsgenealogy.blogspot.com/</A><BR>Saint Paul, MN<BR><BR>Member, Association of Professional Genealogists<BR>(</FONT><FONT lang=2 face=Arial color=#000000 size=1 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="8">professional profile at <A title=http://www.apgen.org)/ href="http://www.apgen.org%29/" moz-do-not-send="true">www.apgen.org)</A></FONT><FONT lang=2 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="10"><BR>Member, Genealogical Speakers Guild<BR></FONT><FONT lang=2 face=Arial color=#000000 size=1 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="8">(professional profile at <A title=http://www.genealogicalspeakersguild.org/) href="http://www.genealogicalspeakersguild.org/%29" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.genealogicalspeakersguild.org/)</A></FONT><FONT lang=2 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="10"> <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=2 face=Arial color=#000000 size=1 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="8">CG (Certified Genealogist) is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.</FONT><FONT lang=2 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 family="SANSSERIF" ptsize="10"><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT><PRE wrap=""><HR width="90%" SIZE=4> No virus found in this incoming message. 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