<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18813"> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Cambria Math; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-style-type: personal-reply } .MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=white vLink=purple> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">It's an interesting area to work in, and there are some credible sources. If you want to explore the era directly , there more period State Papers online now. Early Rolls that have been transcribed and can be searched online. Use the Peerage as a general map.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">I have managed to use my high school latin to make sense of Medieval documents, though with more than a little help from an excellent little free Latin-English translation program that handles  medieval latin phrases. Be warned though that if you go back to sources contemporary to the Elizabethan time period, it's easy to get side-tracked into following some fascinating material. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Larry</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tdavislong@copper.net href="mailto:tdavislong@copper.net">trudie davis-long</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:14 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APG Public List] Burke's Peerage etc.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I am now reading <I>Peerage and Pedigree; Studies in Peerage Law and Family History</I> [1910] by J Horace Round and he agrees completely.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Fascinating!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Trudie Davis-Long<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">PO Box 234<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Monrovia, MD 21770-0234<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">FRECOGS [Frederick County Genealogical Society Maryland] Newsletter Editor<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Pawprints, Inc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Comet Lines<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces@apgen.org">apgpubliclist-bounces@apgen.org</A> [mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces@apgen.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>LBoswell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 05, 2009 1:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> frostfree12@yahoo.com; apgpubliclist@apgen.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APG Public List] Burke's Peerage etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Excellent site, but be very wary of Burke's Peerage.  Nothing in it should be taken at face value.  I use it as a rough guide, but have found many errors in it along the way.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Larry</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in"> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=frostfree12@yahoo.com href="mailto:frostfree12@yahoo.com">Judy</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">apgpubliclist@apgen.org</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday, October 05, 2009 12:50 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [APG Public List] Burke's Peerage etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal>An extremely useful complement to Burke's is this very deep and rich web site:<BR><BR><A href="http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/vol1.shtml">http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/vol1.shtml</A><BR><BR>Best wishes,<BR>Judy<BR><BR><BR>      <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>APG Public Mailing List<BR><A href="http://apgen.org/publications/publiclist/">http://apgen.org/publications/publiclist/</A><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <P> <HR> <P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>APG Public Mailing List<BR>http://apgen.org/publications/publiclist/<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>