<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18813"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Interesting.  But that creation of "orphans" (read the article for the explanation) is an unexpected problem in the digital age, an outcome of past insistence on constantly expanding the length and coverage of copyright beyond what's reasonable.  Some of the time periods now legally set before works enter the 'public domain' have become way too long. Hope this doesn't shut down a large area of Google Books which has become a good source of material from a genealogical point of view.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"> In the case of 'orphans' if this goes to court, in the future no one will want to take a chance on digitizing such works, yet many of those works no longer have copyright owners (though you can bet there are those who are scrambling to find previously uninterested parties who probably have some slight claim to copyright, just to become part of these lawsuits given that financial settlements might be on the horizon).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Larry</FONT></DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=claire@clairebettag.com href="mailto:claire@clairebettag.com">Claire Bettag</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apgpubliclist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgpubliclist@apgen.org">Mail list APG</A> ; <A title=apgmembersonlylist@apgen.org href="mailto:apgmembersonlylist@apgen.org">Mail list APG</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:31 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [APG Public List] Articles about Google and copyright</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Two New York Times articles about an upcoming court case involving Google and copyright will be of interest to many readers. One appeared in Sunday's paper (thank you to Dave McDonald for pointing it out) and can be found at: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px" class=Apple-style-span><A href="http://tinyurl.com/ybkq8we">http://tinyurl.com/ybkq8we</A></SPAN> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The second is in today's paper and can be found at the following link: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 14px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px" class=Apple-style-span><A href="http://tinyurl.com/ybdsddy">http://tinyurl.com/ybdsddy</A></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: 14px Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: 14px Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span><SPAN style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: 14px Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class=Apple-style-span> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Claire</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Claire Bettag</DIV> <DIV>1685 34th Street NW</DIV> <DIV>Washington, DC 20007</DIV> <DIV>202-625-2598</DIV> <DIV>cell: 202-436-2121</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR></DIV> <P> <HR> <P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>APG Public Mailing List<BR>http://apgen.org/publications/publiclist/<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>