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Thu Mar 10 12:02:21 MST 2011


 

"This certifies that I have given to my son, Knight Stanton, his time; that
he is at liberty to act and trade for himself; that I shall neither claim
his earnings, nor pay any debts of his contracting after this date, Hatevil
K. Stanton, Ossippee, Sept. 11, 1826"

 

"This certifies that I have given to my son, John Stanton, his time; that he
is at liberty to act and trade for himself; that I shall neither claim his
earnings, nor pay any debts of his contracting after this date, Hatevil K.
Stanton, Ossippee, Sept. 11, 1826"

 

Knight Stanton was born 28 Mar 1809 and his brother John circa 1810/11, thus
they would have been minors at this time. Would this be a form of
emancipation of a minor?

 

Thanks for any information or suggestions

 

Holly Timm

who descends through Knight and Jacob's brother Hatevil

 

 


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lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I appreciate all the =
thoughts and suggestions from the members of this list. I am inclined to =
view this as something of an emancipation of minors, perhaps limited =
only to financial dealings, thus perhaps permitting his sons to go into =
business for themselves. Knight dies in 1847 in Middlesex County =
Massachusetts, cause unknown. John dies at sea in 1849, traveling for =
his health. His will leaves a life estate in a farm there in Ossipee, =
Carroll County, NH to his parents and his interest in his ice merchant =
business in New Orleans to his wife Sophia. Only four of Hatevil&#8217;s =
ten children outlive their parents: Jacob, Hatevil, Hannah who md =
William Keyes, and Nancy who was mentally deficient. My instincts say =
Hatevil was freeing his sons to stand or fall on their own, perhaps even =
they had plans to begin the ice business but the responses keep me =
resolved to pursue further research in the laws and what else happened =
with them in the 1820&#8217;s and 1830&#8217;s to try to resolve what =
was going on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thank you =
all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Holly<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> apgpubliclist-bounces+htimm=3Dcomcast.net at apgen.org =
[mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+htimm=3Dcomcast.net at apgen.org] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Kathy Gunter Sullivan, Certified =
Genealogist<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2011 4:34 PM<br><b>Cc:</b> =
apgpubliclist at apgen.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [APG Public List] what =
would these notices mean?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Holly,<br><br>In line with what Elizabeth Mills =
explained, the English Common Law was that a father was entitled to the =
benefits of his child's labors. See Blackstone's Commentaries at <a =
href=3D"http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk1ch16.asp">&=
lt;http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/blackstone_bk1ch16.asp&gt;</a>=
, The Rights of Persons, Book I, Chapter 16, p. 441 and continuing. =
You'd want to know the 1826 law in effect for the Stanton's location, =
but the theory that a father owned his children, their debts, and =
benefits derives from English Common Law (not applicable, of course, to =
Spanish or French territories).<br><br>For some reason in 1826, Mr. =
Stanton is agreeable to relinquishing two of his sons of obligation to =
him and to free himself from obligation to them. Public notices inform =
the community (especially merchants and employers). When wives left =
husbands' bed and board, similar notices were =
published.<br><br>Kathy<br><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:eshown at comcast.net">eshown at comcast.net</a> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Ho=
lly, this is another of those cases in which &#8216;the past was a =
foreign country and they did things differently there.&#8217;&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Un=
til quite modern times, much of the populace felt that parents owned the =
labor of children until they reached the age of majority. Especially in =
small towns, no one would hire a minor without the consent of the =
parent. Even with consent of the parent, the pay often went directly to =
the parent rather than the minor performing the work. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>[s=
nipped]<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+eshown=3Dcomcast.net at apgen.org">apgp=
ubliclist-bounces+eshown=3Dcomcast.net at apgen.org</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+eshown=3Dcomcast.net at apgen.org">mail=
to:apgpubliclist-bounces+eshown=3Dcomcast.net at apgen.org</a>] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Holly Timm<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2011 12:53 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:apgpubliclist at apgen.org">apgpubliclist at apgen.org</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [APG Public List] what would these notices =
mean?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Part of what intrigues me here is that Hatevil =
not only says he would no longer be financially responsible for these =
two sons but also that he would not claim anything they earned. When I =
saw these two notices, I did see one or two others that were similar. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Book =
Antiqua","serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+cshotts1=3Dcarolina.rr.com at apgen.org=
">apgpubliclist-bounces+cshotts1=3Dcarolina.rr.com at apgen.org</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+cshotts1=3Dcarolina.rr.com at apgen.org=
">mailto:apgpubliclist-bounces+cshotts1=3Dcarolina.rr.com at apgen.org</a>] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Holly Timm<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2011 =
11:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:apgpubliclist at apgen.org">apgpubliclist at apgen.org</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [APG Public List] what would these notices =
mean?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>and why =
would they be published?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>From =
November issues of the New Hampshire Republican (on Genealogy =
Bank)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&#8220;This certifies that I have given to my son, =
Knight Stanton, his time; that he is at liberty to act and trade for =
himself; that I shall neither claim his earnings, nor pay any debts of =
his contracting after this date, Hatevil K. Stanton, Ossippee, Sept. 11, =
1826&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&#8220;This certifies that I have given to my son, =
John Stanton, his time; that he is at liberty to act and trade for =
himself; that I shall neither claim his earnings, nor pay any debts of =
his contracting after this date, Hatevil K. Stanton, Ossippee, Sept. 11, =
1826&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Knight Stanton was born 28 Mar 1809 and his brother =
John circa 1810/11, thus they would have been minors at this time. Would =
this be a form of emancipation of a minor?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for =
any information or suggestions<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Holly =
Timm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>who descends through Knight and =
Jacob&#8217;s brother Hatevil<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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