[APG Public List] Who do you think you are? My days One and Two.
elisabeth at etgenealogy.se
Sun Mar 6 08:41:53 MST 2011
Guten Tag! Roland,
It was good to read about your experiences in London, and I am very much
tempted to go there next year for the show. Ryan flies from Sweden too.
It seems to be a nice occasion to be able to meet with APG members,
without having to go to the U.S., even though I hope to be able to
attend the FGS in Springfield in September.
We do have a Swedish version of the Who-do-you-think-you-are?, and I
have also seen the first American series, but consider the British the
best, and have them all on DVD. Now I am waiting for series 7 to be
available. A friend and I also share a subscription to the British
/Who-do-you-think-you-are?/ magazine, which seems to be one of the best
British genealogy magazines.
Well Roland, hope to see you in London next year, und ich spreche etwas
Swedish Genealogist& Writer
Editor of "Swedish American Genealogist"
Utgivare av nyhetsbrevet "Vi Släktforskare"
Rolgeiger at aol.com skrev 2011-03-06 00:52:
> Yesterday but a week ago I had the happy chance to learn to know
> several members of APG.
> Well, here in Germany we know nearly nothing about
> Who-do-you-think-you-are? There was something similar last year in
> German TV but I didn’t pay attention to it. Someone told me about
> itbut … well, you know …
> Last November APG told about the event in late February 2011, so I
> decided to attend. Twas a good chance to learn to know some fellow
> members in person. And it’s a shorter way to England than to America
> anyway. So I organized the trip, got three Q-jump-tickets to have
> faster access to the show, bought a ticket to and fro through Ryanair,
> booked a hotel in London – Kensington within 15 minutes walk distance
> to Olympia where the show took place. Thursday night I rode to
> Frankfurt-Hahn Airport in the Hunsrueck Mountains, stayed in a nearby
> hotel and took the 6.20-a.m.-flight to London-Standsted. That was
> funny. The wind blew the same direction as we flew, so we took off at
> 6.20 and landed 6.10 – always local time. Thus we landed ten minutes
> before we started. I really liked the idea. At eight o’clock I had
> reached downtown London and took a cab to my hotel – wow, 13 Pound
> Sterling for a taxi ride but I was bone-tired and anxious to get
> there. Three days later I paid two pounds for the same route but using
> the subway :-)
> I parked my suitcase in the hotel, got all I needed and went to the
> event hall. I didn’t know what I had to expect. I presented my ticket
> and was among the first visitors that Friday morning. Q-Jump-ticket
> includes three tickets for workshops and my first was … well, actually
> I can’t remember. I know I attended at least three lectures that day –
> one was at 1 p.m. – Mark Herber talked about War Memorials Online at
> Stand 825 “The Genealogist”. He produced various memorials from all
> over Britain, explained how they got there and what information could
> be gathered from it. Some were real monuments on public places but
> others were found on more or less remote sites like schools or even
> plants. When I sat down, there were two ladies sitting right near me
> and I asked one of them in case I felt asleep not to disturb me.
> Should I snore, please, push me with your ellbow. She recognized my
> alien accent and asked where I came from. I guess I was the only
> German to attend the show. I produced a booklet I had put together
> about the relation between my hometown St. Wendel and England - The
> Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandmother of The Prince of Wales - Relations
> between my hometown St. Wendel, Germany, and England - and gave here a
> copy (they had been planned for selling but no occasion arised to
> really sell it so I donated about 15 of them and took the rest back
> home). Hope she liked it. I didn’t fell asleep during Mark Herber’s
> lecture but I started feeling the lack of sleep from last night.
> When I first entered the hall, I made my way to Stand 519- the APG
> stand where I introduced myself to Paul Blake, Laura Prescott and
> Kathleen Hinckley. Then I strolled through the hall realizing that
> these would become three very long days (plus an additional one for
> London itself) before I could go home. And I guessed they would get
> extremely boring. There was nearly nothing of real interest for me.
> All stands dealed with information about England – and there was no
> real genealogical connection between my research in German to that in
> England. That’s what I guessed after the first walk through the hall.
> I forget that quickly after I had talked to several people at several
> stands. Like Ian Hook at Stand 615 “Leger Holidays” (they provided
> military memorial trips to France and Belgium). I gave him a booklet
> whose second half is about a crash of a British bomber in my hometown
> in September 1941. Very exciting talk – he is curator of the Essex
> Regiment Museum, and he told me that some units of the Essex Regt were
> controllers during the 1935-Plebiscite in the Saar Region. Very
> I visited APG stand then and now and met other people like Craig Scott
> from North Carolina, Carol Bannister from Nottinghamshire and Rob van
> Drie from the Netherlands – uuh, it was such a pleasure to meet
> someone who spoke German. My English is not too bad but in school and
> later I learned something like Oxford English and during my research I
> have been in contact to lots of English speaking people but most of
> them American. You know Oscar Wilde’s Canterville Ghost where an
> American family buys a British castle. When the family enters the
> ghost watches them. And he tells about the mother she was good looking
> and spoke but absolutely no English. Well, I got very much acquainted
> to American English and much later I learned that the Brits’ English
> is much different in terms and pronounciation and has nearly nothing
> to do with Oxford English as well. I really had hard times during
> those three days in London to get acquainted with the language – not
> to talk about the traffic system and the currency.
> In the afternoon I urgently needed a coffee and bought a cappucino.
> Once that pretty somehow red-haired girl behind the desk understood my
> order, I ordered some piece of cake and paid 5.50 Pounds Sterling
> which is about 6.40 Euros = 8.50 US Dollars – for a piece of cake and
> a bigger cup of coffee. Incredible. The coffee was great but
> nevertheless …
> I sat on the floor with a wall in my back and several other people
> near me – a men to my left and a middle-aged British lady to my right.
> We sipped coffee and listened to someone lecturing about DNA stuff.
> I attended two more shows that day – one was “Hiring a professional
> genealogist at home and abroad” with Laura Prescott who reminded me of
> our code of ethics. Well, I had read and signed it before I entered
> APG but had I really thought about it? Ofcourse I follow that code –
> had I been a member or not. Like the ten comandments – they are basic
> rules for a functioning society. That lecture was great and I really
> reflected about the code. As I did the next days when talking to
> visitors of the APG stand when “I was on duty”.
> The last lecture for the day was “Ideas for research before 1600” with
> Helen Good. Helen is a tremendous sight – a historian with very much
> passion for her subjects. When I first saw her waiting for the
> visitors to come along I had thought “oh, my goodness” but once she
> started to talk and showing examples I was faszinated. She talked
> about sources from 16th Century – id est 1500 plus. I was surprised to
> be able to read most of the documents she presented – the numbers were
> the same we in Germany had in that time.
> On Sunday I talked to her about it and produced a sample of another
> script in our catholic church in St. Wendel and she got fascinated
> about some letters she had never seen before. During her talk she
> presented a book called “Reading Tudor and Stuart Handwriting” by L.
> Munby, S. Hobbs and A. Crosby, published 2002 by the “British
> Association for Local History” (www.balh.co.uk). It’s great and a very
> useful help for those who deal with that period of time in presenting
> letters and numbers in original with explanations attached.
> I didn’t know what to do that night so I went back to the hotel,
> bought some food and coke in a nearby supermarked and went up to my
> room. I had no watch with me and my portable showed our time in
> Germany. But there was a telephone in the room and it showed the time.
> So I went to bed at ten and at once fell asleep.
> I woke up next morning at 8 a.m. (telephone time), got up and went
> down for breakfast half an hour later – to find the breakfast room
> closed. Hm, they were to open at half past 8, now it was past nine. It
> was then when I realised that my telefone time was wrong – the
> difference was 1 hour and 40 minutes. I hasn’t been 8 when I woke up
> but 6.20. And it had not been ten when I went to sleep the night
> before but 8.20 p.m. Well, now I knew it.
> I went back to Olympia hall and saw the long line of visitors
> alongside the hall and around the corner. I produced my Q-Jump-ticket
> for Saturday and quickly got in. I said “good morning” at the APG
> stand and went upstairs to attend Audrey Collins’ “Using the National
> Archives, onsite and online”. Audrey had had some problems with
> London’s traffic and the fought a hard battle with the computer and
> the beamer. The beamer shut off several times but Audrey was an
> experienced lecturer with cool temper. When one “slide” was to cut off
> once more, she told the audience to memorize this slide before it
> would cut off. And when it was gone she said: “Hope you did as I told
> you and memorize it!” we – the audience and I – loved her coolness.
> Finally the problem was solved and she showed us fascinating
> possibilities on the website of National Archives of Great Britain (or
> just England?).
> I was scheduled for the stand at 11 but got lost in a talk to some
> visitors upstairs and came late. First I stood in the back and
> listened to Marie Foden and how she made it before I dared to talk to
> a visitor. He asked me something and I really didn’t understand
> anything. I asked him to repeat and he used akronyms I never even
> heard off. I asked someone from the APG stand crew for help which was
> quickly provided. That accent really killed me.
> Two hours later I walked around, talked to the Military Stand members
> (Royal Air Force) and the War Graves Commission folks and forget to
> visit Howard Brenbrook’s “What’s in a name?” At about 4 p.m. I quit
> and made it back to the hotel to prepare for the evening. At about six
> I was back and met Paul Blake at the entrance to the Pizza Restaurant
> right near Olympia Hall. APG had invited its members for a reception
> at the Restaurant with wine and drinks. Laura made the reception and
> asked everyone to introduce himself with name and country. The Brits
> had the majority with several people from Ireland. After I’d spoken, I
> got a little mad about myself. While everyone told his country in
> English, I should have mentioned it “Deutschland” instead of Germany.
> A little bit of Patriotism – well, I didn’t. Laura’s reception was
> great and she thanked all those who had made this meeting possible,
> among them Eileen M O Duill from Ireland who had organized the Stand
> in Olympia.
> We sat down and ordered our pizzas and the waiters produced some
> confusion when they brought the pizzas along and called them other
> names than on the menu. I had ordered a Caesar salad and it was very
> good. The wine bottles emptied and new were opened and we talked
> together and it was really a fine chance to talk to people whom you
> knew from the lists but never talked personally. Now some of us had a
> face behind the email adress. Later – after most of us had left – I
> talked to Maggie Loughran and Geoff Swinfield about several things I
> did not understand. They knew the event very well. When the restaurant
> closed at 11 p.m. I accompanied Audrey Collins and another lady who
> stayed at the Hilton and went back to the hotel.
> Roland Geiger
> Roland Geiger
> Historical and Genalogical Research
> Alsfassener Strasse 17
> 66606 St. Wendel
> phone ++49-6851-3166
> email rolgeiger at aol.com
> www.hfrg.de <http://www.hfrg.de/>
> => APG - Association of Professional Genealogists
> => ASF - Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Saarlaendische Familienforschung
> Researchs in
> => genealogy
> => local history
> => transcriptions (f.e. old German into modern)
> => guided tours through St. Wendel (day and night) and St. Wendel
> County, Saarland, Germany
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