[APG Public List] Death certificate in Tennessee

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Thu Jan 21 03:05:30 MST 2010

If she married in 1901 to a US citizen there would be no naturalization  
papers for her.  At that time, a women was automatically granted the  
citizenship of her husband.  This rule resulted in a number of female  natural born 
US citizen losing their citizenship by marrying a non US  citizen. 
In a message dated 1/20/2010 11:02:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
toddmichaelwhite at yahoo.com writes:


You are exactly right. Yes it is Mary F.  that I am attempting to find the 
maiden name for. A later census shows  her immigration to the US as 1892 
which makes more sense because her  daughter Ruth was born in 1904. 

I am wondering if she came over  in 1892 and was naturalized in 1913. 
Regardless, I cannot find her  naturalization records. That is why I was 
attempting to find Ruth's  death certificate. 


Thank you though!


--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Jack Butler  <jackbutler at shwgenealogy.com> wrote:

From:  Jack Butler <jackbutler at shwgenealogy.com>
Subject: Re: [APG  Public List] Death certificate in Tennessee
To: "todd white"  <toddmichaelwhite at yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 20,  2010, 9:51 PM

A quick look online shows a  family file with a Ruth Agnes Cloud, born 1904 
marrying a  man named Herman L. Biggs. This lady reportedly died in 
Tennessee  on 5 January 1954.  When I ran a search on the site that Tina  provided 
a link to, I found Ruth C. Biggs, died in Davidson County,  Tennessee, on 5 
January 1954.  My bet would be that the C is  for Cloud.
This same Ruth A. Cloud  may be the  Ruth Cloud who shows up in the 
household of Charles E. Cloud and Mary  F. [?] on the 1920 U.S. Census of Lavaca 
County, Texas.  If so,  the mother Mary F. is reported to have immigrated to 
the U.S. in 1913  and to have been naturalized - if this is the right family, 
perhaps  you can find the naturalization record. That almost certainly 
would  give you her maiden name.
Good hunting.
Jack Butler

-----  Original Message ----- 
From:  _todd white_ 
To:  _apgpubliclist at apgen.org_ 
Sent:  Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:46 PM
Subject:  [APG Public List] Death certificate in Tennessee


Thank you for your help. I did  check out the Tennessee website you 
suggested. However, she  was not listed. My client's grandmother, Ruth Agnes Cloud 
died  January 5, 1954 in Nashville, Davidson, Tennessee. Yet a  record of 
her death cannot be found. 

I cannot  understand how someone born as late as 1904, and dies in 1954  
cannot be found. However, that is the case. Of course my first  thought is 
that she must be listed under a different name, but  I would think my client 
would know an alternate name for her.  

I'll keep looking. Thanks again for your help though,  

Todd White 

--- On Wed, 1/20/10, Tina  Sansone <gtownma at yahoo.com> wrote:

From:  Tina Sansone <gtownma at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [APG  Public List] Death certificate in Tennessee
To:  apgpubliclist at apgen.org, "todd white"  <toddmichaelwhite at yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday,  January 20, 2010, 7:54 PM

Does this help, see the coloumn on the  far right and check their deaths.
_http://register.shelby.tn.us/_ (http://register.shelby.tn.us/) 

Tina  Sansone  Genealogy at Bellaonline.com

--- On  Wed, 1/20/10, todd white <toddmichaelwhite at yahoo.com>  wrote:

> From: todd white <toddmichaelwhite at yahoo.com>
>  Subject: [APG Public List] Death certificate in  Tennessee
> To: apgpubliclist at apgen.org
> Date:  Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 7:41 PM
> Hello all,  
> I
> am ultimately looking for a maiden name  for a client's
> ancestor. I know
> she was  married somewhere in Texas between 1899 and 1901. I
>  am not sure
> of the County the couple were married  in. Therefore
> locating the
> marriage license  has proven to be impossible so far.
>  From
> that marriage, there was a child born somewhere  in Texas in
> 1904. That lady grew up,
>  married, moved to Tennessee and passed away in 1954.  I
> would like to
> see the death certificate to  see if her mother's maiden
> name is on it
> but  for some reason I cannot locate her death
>  certificate.
> Does
> anyone know what I can  expect to find on that death
> certificate?
>  Considering that it was issued from Tennessee in  1954,
> should I expect
> it to contain her  mother's maiden name? 
> Thank you all in  advance!
> Todd White 

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