[APG Public List] [APG Members] new family book "Die Einwohner der Stadt Saarlouis 1816 - 1...
jeanettedaniels8667 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 4 17:37:32 MDT 2010
Sorry to be confusing. I was using the FHL location that I found my immigrant
ancestors' marriage in. At the time of their marriage just before they
immigrated, it was listed in the catalog as Saarland. So, thank you for the
geography lesson which also explains the difficulties of doing German research.
Heritage Genealogical College
From: "Rolgeiger at aol.com" <Rolgeiger at aol.com>
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Stadt Saarlouis 1816 - 1...
In einer eMail vom 04.08.2010 21:09:35 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt
jeanettedaniels8667 at yahoo.com:
Are there plans for doing a "family book" for Saarland for earlier years back
into the 1600s and 1700s? I have family that immigrated from there to South
Carolina about 1710.( That date is from memory so it could be a little
later.) Also, the area that was Saarland back then is now part of the
adjacent county boundary (Rhineland??? again from memory).
Well, no, and I don't think there ever will be one. Main problem is: although
the Saarland is the smallest of all our federal states, it nevertheless is not
small at all. Per 31st December 2009 we had 1,200,000 citizen residing here.
What do you think about the size of a family book for all Saarlanders ever
Furthermore Saarland did not exist before 1919. The treaty of Versailles after
World War I fixed the borderlines of the region (more or less) which then was
called "Saargebiet" (Saar District) and now is Saarland. But before 1919 big
parts of it belonged to Prussia, Bavaria and Oldenburg. Before 1834 part of my
own recent county St. Wendel belonged to Coburg and Oldenburg (their dukes got
it at the Congress of Vienna in 1815 after helping defeat Napoleon). Before
1815 we were all part of France. Before 1800 St. Wendel County belonged to the
Electorate of Trier (who was bishop and electorate in one person) while south
easter Saarland belonged to Pfalz-Zweibruecken, south western Saarland to
Nassau-Saarbruecken, the area around Tholey called Amt Schaumburg first to
Lorraine = France, then to Pfalz-Saarbruecken as well.
Uhm, about what are we talking?
Someone born in St. Wendel in 1770 was born in the town of St. Wendel, Amt (no
translation for that) St. Wendel (maybe district or even county), Kurstift
(Electorate of) Trier, Heiliges Roemisches Reich Deutscher Nation (Holy Roman
Empire of German Nation). Your ancestors must have been catholic to reside
their. Protestants as well as Jews were not allowed to settle in that area. One
of the reasons why there were only few emigrants from our area in early 18th
Century. Emigrants from St. Wendel County mostly emigrated in 19th Century -
then from St. Wendel, Canton St. Wendel, Fuerstentum Lichtenberg (bet. 1818 and
1834) or from St. Wendel, Canton St. Wendel, Preussen (Prussia).
If you want to learn about your ancestors emigrating from our area you may
consult Werner Hacker's "Auswanderungen aus Rheinpfalz und Saarland im 18.
Jahrhundert" (Emigration from the Rheinpfalz and Saarland in 18th Century) to
find where they came from. Well, and then you may engage a local researcher :-)
Roland Geiger, St. Wendel, Germany
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