[APG Public List] Removing returns in a word processing doc or PAF

Rondina Muncy rondina.muncy at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 21:31:41 MDT 2009

Ray, Jan, Richard and everyone else that has written with suggestions,

I appreciate y'all taking the time to try to solve this problem for me. So
far, the steps have been too complicated for her to go through. I'm afraid
that she is going to have to continue removing the returns herself. I see
the main problem is that this is a PAF program that was typed into rather
than a Word document. When I created family files from her program for the
people I needed, the files included her notes (the ones with the unwanted
returns). I did a "print to file" so I would not have to use her paper. The
file came out in a Word Pad document. When I loaded it into my computer, it
came up as a Word document. If I did this and removed the returns in Word,
could I then just paste the notes back into the PAF file? If this can be
done, how do I remove the returns in Word? (This was more like a replace,
but I can't remember how I did it---I just remember that it was easy.)

Thank you for your help.

Rondina P. Muncy
Ancestral Analysis
2960 Trail Lake Drive
Grapevine, Texas 76051
rondina.muncy at gmail.com

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Richard A. Pence <
richardpence at pipeline.com> wrote:

> Rondina:
> There is still an active group of PAF users here in the Washington area
> (the
> Capital Area PAF Users Group), some of whom I have known for 25 years or
> more. I thought I recalled a program to remove the line feeds from PAF
> citations and I was right - but so far no one has come up with a copy of
> the
> utility. However, I did get some suggestions that may help your cousin.
> I wrote in CPAFUG:
> > Cheryl and All:
> > The following is from another mailing list. I thought perhaps someone
> > here might have a suggestion on this.
> >
> >> This week I met a distant cousin for the first time. She is older
> >> and is going blind. We exchanged our genealogy data. Mine all
> >> documention, hers in PAF. She showed me that because when she used
> >> the first version of PAF there was no word-wrap, so she is slowly
> >> going through her PAF notes and removing all the returns manually.
> >> This is extremely time consuming, but to make matters worse, she
> >> uses a magnifier that is controlled by her mouse AND a magnifying
> >> glass to read the screen. There has got to be a better way. At some
> >> point in the last few years, someone taught me how to do this to
> >> email messages that had returns in them, but I can't place any notes
> >> that I may have taken on the process. If anyone knows how I could
> >> shorten this process for this kind cousin, I would greatly
> >> appreciate you passing it on to me. Thank you.
> You're right, there was a program around back when PAF 4 or
> 5 was new and shiny that removed those line breaks.  SOME
> folks who used weren't pleased, because people often have
> formatted stuff in their notes (a list of household members
> on the 1850, f'instance?) and removing line breaks surely
> messes those formatted areas up nicely.  Fixing those is
> almost as time-consuming as what she's doing.
> There's also the "Call in a Tech-inclined Teenager"
> approach.  EXPORT everything out of PAF into a GEDCOM file.
> OPEN the .ged file in anything;
> SAVE the .ged again being sure to select PLAIN TEXT!
> IMPORT .GED into a new PAF file.
> COMPARE origin file with new file ... if everyone is in the
> 2nd file and there are no painfully obvious errors, move the
> original file to a directory labelled "DELETE THIS FILE IN
> 90 DAYS".
> Cheryl
> - - - - - - - - - -
> There is a little program called eCleaner that takes symbols out of
> forwarded messages that might work.  I have version 2.01 which was
> free.  I don't know where it is available, but is probably still
> available somewhere by Googling.
> Sandra
> Richard Pence
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