[APG Public List] Who Are We, Really?

Jeanette Daniels jeanettedaniels8667 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 2 20:52:04 MDT 2009

Dear APG Public list,

I have truly enjoyed reading all the comments by everyone about Who Are We, Really? as well as the National Conferences.  It is great to have this type of dialogue.  It appears that those involved with the National Conferences want to keep them at the basic elementary level for the benefit of those just starting in genealogy.  Others would like a more what I call a "Continuing Education" type of conference where detailed studies are presented in methology or research.  I believe that both are beneficial.  I've been thinking how everyone that wants to be included could without a lot of expense and ways that those who want to share can without again a lot of expense.  

I'm thinking of Roland in Germany and Larry in Canada as well as the fact that in the US we live in at least 4 different time zones.  How can we all contribute to a presentation that we feel would benefit others and avoid having all interested from spending a lot money to attend?  The Internet is my answer and I believe that Internet Continuing Education type conferences can be created cheaply.  I work with Heritage Genealogical College and it would be possible to create an APG or independent conference online through its website.  HGC could donate space and create conference presentation locations on its site.  Or if APG wanted to create something on its website that would be great as well.  But I'm not sure that APG is willing or able to do something like this.

If anyone is interested in something like this and in coming up with topics and presentations, please respond.  I believe that everyone that wants more detailed presentations can be included.  Below are some suggested general topics that might be interested to explore with such online conference presentations.  

Cemetery plot research

Land title disputes

Missing heir research cases

Forensic and anthropological research

Medical DNA research

Historical research

Specific genealogical research projects

Improving the Genealogical Proof Standard




From: "Rolgeiger at aol.com" <Rolgeiger at aol.com>
To: apgpubliclist at apgen.org
Sent: Fri, October 2, 2009 4:58:05 PM
Subject: Re: [APG Public List] Who Are We, Really?

In einer eMail vom 03.10.2009 00:33:42 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt mary at heirlines.com:
Is genealogy a viable occupation?  Should we have a profession for the practitioner? Why is there no profession in genealogy?   Who would benefit from having a real profession in genealogy?  What is stopping us from starting now and organizing a real profession in genealogy?  Why shouldn’t we organize a profession so we can have the authority in Professional Genealogy  to establish best practices, standards, ethics, education degree programs, competency testing and verifiable maintenance, continuing-education, verifiable practitioner credentialing, members-only profession practitioner and trade organizations?  With a real profession in genealogy, what would be the exclusive practitioner title?   
Yeah, and once you have all that, what about us on the other side of an U.S. border? Why should we care about what you consider or what you arrange?

Here in Germany genealogy is more or a less a hobby. There are some very few of us who do it for money and there are a majority of others who look at us with ravaging eyes stating on every opportunity they have how much they don't like what we do. To be a professional may be a reason to be excluded from one of the many German genealogical forums. 

But like in the States everyone of us professionals has never passed an examination or something like that. There is a group of professionals who joined in a specific associtiation with its own "Code of Honor". I got an invitation to join them but had no opportunity yet to visit one of the conferences during which the accept new members. But there would be no need to join them to work as a professional researcher. I've been working in the matter for at least 15 years, specialising in emigration to the US (because I speak English :-) and other stuff. So - when the company I worked for - fired me five years ago, I became a professional researcher. Among other things. I went to our Public Record Office, told them about the company I would like to found (you need a company to be able to sell your own written products), payed the fee of 30 Euros - and there was I facing the world through my computer and said: "Hello, here I am!" Well, some came, other didn't
 or haven't yet. :-)

You are lucky in the States. Genealogy is a common thing overthere on high level. Here it's not much more than just another part of historic research (I know a lady here in our county, historian by trade, who would never to genealogy, oh my goodness, no such things - but that's less arrogance but ignorance - in case there is a difference). People are not used to spend more money in that subject than necessary - necessary would be fees for the Public Record Office or the dioces archives or national or city archives. Costs you cannot avoid. They pay without hesitation. But if you (or I) offer the same service - maybe cheaper - well, that's not the same. 

Oops, it's getting late (one in the monring). 

Good night. 

Roland Geiger

Roland Geiger
Historical and Genalogical Research
Alsfassener Strasse 17
66606 St. Wendel
phone ++49 - 6851-3166
email rolgeiger at aol.com

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