[APG Public List] removing returns

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Mon Nov 2 22:10:55 MST 2009


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>    1. Re: Trying To Locate Specific Site Mentioned On   OldList
>       (Donna McClure)
>    2. Re: Removing returns in a word processing doc or  PAF
>       (Richard A. Pence)
>    3. Re: Removing returns in a word processing doc or  PAF
>       (Rondina Muncy)
>    4. Re: Removing returns in a word processing doc or  PAF
>       (Rondina Muncy)
>    5. Re: [APG Members] Exciting New Dimension for  DNAResearch
>       (Scott Mueller)
>    6. Re: [APG Members] Exciting New Dimension for  DNAResearch
>       (JYoung6180 at aol.com)
>    7. Re: [APG Members] Exciting New Dimension for  DNAResearch
>       (Scott Mueller)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:15:54 -0400
> From: "Donna McClure" <dmc68 at nycap.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] Trying To Locate Specific Site
>     Mentioned On    OldList
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> I believe this is the link you are searching for: 
> http://www.suitcaseexhibit.org/indexhasflash.html
>
> It is focused on the Willard Psychiatric Center in the Finger Lakes region 
> of Upstate New York.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ray Beere Johnson II" <raybeere at yahoo.com>
>
>   
>>     It was a site which offered "case studies", or really brief sketches, 
>> of the lives of a handful of inmates of a particular state hospital or 
>> asylum. I believe the hospital was in upstate New York, but I'm not 
>> certain of that. There were photos and a brief biographical sketch, along 
>> with photos of the possessions they left behind.
>>     If anyone can locate the link, or knows anything more about the site 
>> I'm referring to, I'd appreciate the information. Thanks!
>>                            Ray Beere Johnson II
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:11:13 -0400
> From: "Richard A. Pence" <richardpence at pipeline.com>
> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] Removing returns in a word processing
>     doc or  PAF
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> Rondina:
>
> There is still an active group of PAF users here in the Washington area (the 
> Capital Area PAF Users Group), some of whom I have known for 25 years or 
> more. I thought I recalled a program to remove the line feeds from PAF 
> citations and I was right - but so far no one has come up with a copy of the 
> utility. However, I did get some suggestions that may help your cousin.
>
> I wrote in CPAFUG:
>
>   
>> Cheryl and All:
>>     
>
>   
>> The following is from another mailing list. I thought perhaps someone
>> here might have a suggestion on this.
>>
>>     
>>> This week I met a distant cousin for the first time. She is older
>>> and is going blind. We exchanged our genealogy data. Mine all
>>> documention, hers in PAF. She showed me that because when she used
>>> the first version of PAF there was no word-wrap, so she is slowly
>>> going through her PAF notes and removing all the returns manually.
>>> This is extremely time consuming, but to make matters worse, she
>>> uses a magnifier that is controlled by her mouse AND a magnifying
>>> glass to read the screen. There has got to be a better way. At some
>>> point in the last few years, someone taught me how to do this to
>>> email messages that had returns in them, but I can't place any notes
>>> that I may have taken on the process. If anyone knows how I could
>>> shorten this process for this kind cousin, I would greatly
>>> appreciate you passing it on to me. Thank you.
>>>       
>
> You're right, there was a program around back when PAF 4 or
> 5 was new and shiny that removed those line breaks.  SOME
> folks who used weren't pleased, because people often have
> formatted stuff in their notes (a list of household members
> on the 1850, f'instance?) and removing line breaks surely
> messes those formatted areas up nicely.  Fixing those is
> almost as time-consuming as what she's doing.
>
> There's also the "Call in a Tech-inclined Teenager"
> approach.  EXPORT everything out of PAF into a GEDCOM file.
> OPEN the .ged file in anything;
> FIND/Replace CONT/CONC
> SAVE the .ged again being sure to select PLAIN TEXT!
> IMPORT .GED into a new PAF file.
> COMPARE origin file with new file ... if everyone is in the
> 2nd file and there are no painfully obvious errors, move the
> original file to a directory labelled "DELETE THIS FILE IN
> 90 DAYS".
>
> HTH
>
> Cheryl
>
> - - - - - - - - - -
>
> There is a little program called eCleaner that takes symbols out of
> forwarded messages that might work.  I have version 2.01 which was
> free.  I don't know where it is available, but is probably still
> available somewhere by Googling.
> Sandra
>
> Richard Pence
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:31:41 -0500
> From: Rondina Muncy <rondina.muncy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] Removing returns in a word processing
>     doc or  PAF
> To: apgpubliclist at apgen.org
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> Ray, Jan, Richard and everyone else that has written with suggestions,
>
> I appreciate y'all taking the time to try to solve this problem for me. So
> far, the steps have been too complicated for her to go through. I'm afraid
> that she is going to have to continue removing the returns herself. I see
> the main problem is that this is a PAF program that was typed into rather
> than a Word document. When I created family files from her program for the
> people I needed, the files included her notes (the ones with the unwanted
> returns). I did a "print to file" so I would not have to use her paper. The
> file came out in a Word Pad document. When I loaded it into my computer, it
> came up as a Word document. If I did this and removed the returns in Word,
> could I then just paste the notes back into the PAF file? If this can be
> done, how do I remove the returns in Word? (This was more like a replace,
> but I can't remember how I did it---I just remember that it was easy.)
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Rondina
> ________________________
> Rondina P. Muncy
> Ancestral Analysis
> 2960 Trail Lake Drive
> Grapevine, Texas 76051
> 817.481.5902
> rondina.muncy at gmail.com
> www.ancestralanalysis.com
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Richard A. Pence <
> richardpence at pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Rondina:
>>
>> There is still an active group of PAF users here in the Washington area
>> (the
>> Capital Area PAF Users Group), some of whom I have known for 25 years or
>> more. I thought I recalled a program to remove the line feeds from PAF
>> citations and I was right - but so far no one has come up with a copy of
>> the
>> utility. However, I did get some suggestions that may help your cousin.
>>
>> I wrote in CPAFUG:
>>
>>     
>>> Cheryl and All:
>>>       
>>> The following is from another mailing list. I thought perhaps someone
>>> here might have a suggestion on this.
>>>
>>>       
>>>> This week I met a distant cousin for the first time. She is older
>>>> and is going blind. We exchanged our genealogy data. Mine all
>>>> documention, hers in PAF. She showed me that because when she used
>>>> the first version of PAF there was no word-wrap, so she is slowly
>>>> going through her PAF notes and removing all the returns manually.
>>>> This is extremely time consuming, but to make matters worse, she
>>>> uses a magnifier that is controlled by her mouse AND a magnifying
>>>> glass to read the screen. There has got to be a better way. At some
>>>> point in the last few years, someone taught me how to do this to
>>>> email messages that had returns in them, but I can't place any notes
>>>> that I may have taken on the process. If anyone knows how I could
>>>> shorten this process for this kind cousin, I would greatly
>>>> appreciate you passing it on to me. Thank you.
>>>>         
>> You're right, there was a program around back when PAF 4 or
>> 5 was new and shiny that removed those line breaks.  SOME
>> folks who used weren't pleased, because people often have
>> formatted stuff in their notes (a list of household members
>> on the 1850, f'instance?) and removing line breaks surely
>> messes those formatted areas up nicely.  Fixing those is
>> almost as time-consuming as what she's doing.
>>
>> There's also the "Call in a Tech-inclined Teenager"
>> approach.  EXPORT everything out of PAF into a GEDCOM file.
>> OPEN the .ged file in anything;
>> FIND/Replace CONT/CONC
>> SAVE the .ged again being sure to select PLAIN TEXT!
>> IMPORT .GED into a new PAF file.
>> COMPARE origin file with new file ... if everyone is in the
>> 2nd file and there are no painfully obvious errors, move the
>> original file to a directory labelled "DELETE THIS FILE IN
>> 90 DAYS".
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>> There is a little program called eCleaner that takes symbols out of
>> forwarded messages that might work.  I have version 2.01 which was
>> free.  I don't know where it is available, but is probably still
>> available somewhere by Googling.
>> Sandra
>>
>> Richard Pence
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> APG Public Mailing List
>> http://apgen.org/publications/publiclist/
>>
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> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:40:24 -0500
> From: Rondina Muncy <rondina.muncy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] Removing returns in a word processing
>     doc or  PAF
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> Cafi and Ray and not to forget John Boggess,
>
> Ok. What I'm going to have to do is to go back and take all these
> suggestions and work with them. I need to copy her PAF file onto my computer
> and try all these methods out. I downloaded PAF, but when I was there I
> couldn't figure out how to move her PAF file onto my laptop. (Definitely not
> a techie.) I'll have to print out the directions everyone gave me and from
> the sites first. She has dial-up, so any attempt to access my email failed
> when I was there. I can see this is something that I will have to go through
> myself and do as Cafi suggested. I'm thinking that what she really might
> need is to just do this in NotePad when she gets ready to print. I think
> that the end product is printed, so why correct it in PAF? She could correct
> it each time she printed out relatively quickly in her world.
>
> I appreciate everyone's help with this. It is really hard to communicate how
> difficult these things are for her to do. Can you imagine working with a 5X5
> magnifier on your screen AND a magnifying glass in order to see your work? I
> would love to see her be able to get on with her genealogy rather than
> removing carriage returns. I'll let you know the results. Thank you again
> for you all taking the time to try to help me help her.
>
> Rondina
> ________________________
> Rondina P. Muncy
> Ancestral Analysis
> 2960 Trail Lake Drive
> Grapevine, Texas 76051
> 817.481.5902
> rondina.muncy at gmail.com
> www.ancestralanalysis.com
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> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:01:03 -0700
> From: Scott Mueller <scott at appletree.com>
> Subject: Re: [APG Public List] [APG Members] Exciting New Dimension
>     for DNAResearch
> To: "Kenyatta D. Berry" <kenyattadb at gmail.com>
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> That TechCrunch article is surprisingly harsh on 23andme.  Seemingly the
> only 2 positive comments were with 23andme's genealogical benefits.  I
> wonder which is more valuable to consumers, 23andme's physical traits
> results or their ancestry/relationship finder tools?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Kenyatta D. Berry <kenyattadb at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>   
>> Just an FYI - Layoffs were confirmed at 23AndMe -
>> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/29/layoffs-confirmed-at-23andme/.  I am
>> sure there will be consolidation in this area since there are a number of
>> companies who offer simliar services to 23andme.
>>
>>
>> We have reduced our staffing levels in a restructuring of our workforce.
>> This was a very difficult decision, but one that we felt was necessary to
>> achieve 23andMe?s long-term business development goals and maintain our
>> strength in the industry.
>>
>> These cuts, which are a reflection of the current economic environment all
>> companies are facing, will allow us to continue to invest in the growth of
>> our Personal Genome Service and research endeavors.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kenyatta D. Berry
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:49 PM, <JYoung6180 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>>  Exactly, and that is what we are doing in making use of the new Relative
>>> Finder.
>>>
>>> Joan
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 10/29/2009 8:21:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> stephen at stephendanko.com writes:
>>>
>>> The difficulty comes with proving HOW people with matching DNA are
>>> related.
>>>
>>>
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>> --
>> Kenyatta D. Berry
>> http://www.kenyattaberry.com
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Try Using Crimson Editor. It's a free word pad type text editor.

In the menu select Edit>Advanced> the select  end of line to remove all 
the end of line characters.

Best of Luck


Jay Wilpolt




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