[APG Public List] SS-5 parents' names blackened out

EILEEN SOUZA eileen.souza at verizon.net
Thu Aug 27 19:00:37 MDT 2009

No it is not a law.  Only Congress makes laws.  It is a guideline/policy set
by SSA, I am sure, to provide consistency so it is not completely left to an
individual's discretion.  Each Federal Agency forms its own regulations,
policies, procedures and guidelines.  I am sure that if you wrote SSA and
requested a reason, they would provide one.
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To: apgpubliclist at apgen.org; Rondina Muncy
Subject: Re: [APG Public List] SS-5 parents' names blackened out

Is it an actual law?  Or just part of the discretionary process from
individual SSA employees?

According to this website ( http://www.lee.army.mil/foia.html ), the Army
processes a sanitized area but it should have the reason listed on the

At best, the SSA should provide a reason in a letter if a reason is
requested in writing, citing whatever law or source they go by for
determining the sanitation.

Just my humble opinion.  I'm no expert.


--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Rondina Muncy <rondina.muncy at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rondina Muncy <rondina.muncy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [APG Public List] SS-5 parents' names blackened out
To: apgpubliclist at apgen.org
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 6:00 PM
This is a tough one, but do you have a source for this? If I'm going to be
able to cite this little piece of information in a report, I need to know
where the law is.
Rondina P. Muncy
Ancestral Analysis
2960 Trail Lake Drive
Grapevine, Texas 76051
rondina.muncy at gmail.com

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Eileen Souza <eileen.souza at verizon.net>
Recently, we had a thread where people were noticing that some of the SS-5s
they received had the parents' names blackened.  I work for Social Security
(in information technology) so I did a little research.  What I have learned
is that the FOIA analysts who handle your requests use the Rule of 65 as
their guideline.  What this means is that if the subject of the request is
under 65 and no proof has been submitted of their parents' deaths, the
analyst will check our files to see if they can find a record of the deaths
of the subjects' parents.  If they do not find this evidence in our records,
they redact the names.
Eileen Souza
Eldersburg, MD
eileen.souza at verizon.net

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